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The problem for the Chicago outsourcer is that its insourcers are stung by 2008 and operating in suboptimal fashion
April 15, 2015 — 12:45 PM UTC by Brooke Southall
Brooke’s Note: One of the things you need to withstand as a reporter is the free whispered wisdom about things you have already heard shouted from 1,000 rooftops. That includes the concept that the future isn’t robo or human but some mixture of the two. “Dude, it’s bionic!” But I’d argue that in the end, it’s all human. Sure, technology is important but, so too, it becomes a commodity almost overnight. So you’re back to the humans, those emotional, nervous and media-confused mice in snake pits. Nothing seems to show the make-or-break importance of humanity more than a company with pole position in the advisor technology world that is making a big investment in advisors — and ones that it doesn’t even employ. Matthew McGinness’s descriptions of what, even today, he sees in advisors, makes you realize that even the good ones are on the steep part of the learning curve.
Envestnet has hired Matthew McGinness en route to launching a large data-backed consulting division.
The Chicago-based outsourcer hired the San Diego-based executive away from First Allied, a broker-dealer under Cetera Financial Group. Nicholas Schorsch added First Allied to his empire in early 2014. See: Nicholas Schorsch explains why buying Cetera makes him a white-hat magnate in a black-hat world.
McGinness’s reasons for departing First Allied in January are unclear, but Envestnet president Bill Crager is certain about why he made the hire in February.
“Essentially we want to build a consulting organization,” he said in an interview last week in New York. See: Top RIA takeaways from my trip to New York City and my stop-by at the Tiburon CEO Summit.
A spokesman for First Allied said that McGinness’s duties have been absorbed. “Matt’s roles and responsibilities will be absorbed within our newly created Advisor Growth function at Cetera Financial Group, which is now led by Brett Harrison, the CEO of Cetera Advisors, one of our most successful broker-dealer firms.
He adds: “We are grateful to Matt for all his great work over the years, and we wish him the best of luck in his future endeavors and look forward to working closely with Matt in his new role.”
Indeed, McGinness says one of the benefits of his new job is that his old firm, First Allied, is an Envestnet client so that he will be able to continue to work with them.
McGinness, who carries the title of managing director of strategic consulting, has a budget to hire a team and will himself act as a consultant.
Envestnet will offer consulting services to its outsourcing clients gratis, a model long employed by TAMPs like AssetMark Inc. of Concord, Calif. as well as by RIA custodians. Advisors cite Pershing LLC chief executive Mark Tibergien’s pedigree at the RIA consulting practice of Moss Adams as a reason for parking their assets with Pershing Advisor Solutions and Schwab Advisor Services executive Nick Georgis oversees consulting efforts from his San Francisco office. See: Eavesdropping on the Moss Adams workshop: How big and broadly owned your firm should be.
But McGinness, 41, differentiates those services from the ones his firm is seeking to provide in that Envestnet is a technology provider as well as product provider. He adds that his company services advisors in every channel, thus giving Envestnet a broader perspective from which to advise clients.
The goal of the new consultancy unit is to help turn advisors into wealth managers. “They all have wealth management strategies,” says Crager. “But how do you get there, do pricing, products?”
Envestnet has the potential to become a leader in the consulting field, says Kelli Cruz, principal of Cruz Consulting in Mill Valley, Calif.
“Envestnet has knowledge. They may have the ability to measure changes in growth or revenues. That could give them a leg up. I’m not sure the others can [show hard results].”
Cruz observes that TD Ameritrade Institutional, with its ActiFi Inc. technology, may be enjoying some success in integrating data and consulting. See: New marching orders issued at TD Ameritrade’s conference in San Diego: Don’t join’em, beat’em!.
McGinness agrees with Cruz about the importance of data measurement. “You’re not going to convince advisors to accept consulting advice unless you’re sure of what the results will be.”
Crisis of faith
McGinness will focus on banks, brokerages and other institutions. He joins the program’s architect, Jay Hummel, 35, who was hired in August as senior vice president in the advisor services group.
Hummel will take the lead consulting with the 40,000-some advisors who use Envestnet services. Previously, he was president and chief operating officer of the $1 billion-plus RIA Lenox Wealth Management in Cincinnati. Hummel was previously a strategic consultant for the Ward Group, a financial consulting firm. Before that, he was an accountant at Deloitte. See: Having won advisor assets, Envestnet’s next — more Google-like — play is for their smarts.
The consulting challenge for Envestnet’s clients is at once specific and intangible, according to McGinness.
“Many advisors were hurt by the markets in 2008-2009. It shook their faith, made them question asset allocation and they haven’t been able to replace it with something new.”
This challenge, McGinness says, is only complicated by the entry of robo-advisors and other emerging market forces that can confuse attempts to manage a practice and its investment processes. See: Envestnet buys baby robo-advisor to add 'last mile’ to its grown-up platform.
Readiness to engage
Envestnet decided to go whole hog on a consulting unit after a pilot effort at an RIA increased proposals by 50% and its profits by 30%, See: Having won advisor assets, Envestnet’s next — more Google-like — play is for their smarts.
The knack of getting proposals out the door languished after the ’08 whiplash, McGinness says. “A lot of advisors have grown rusty in engaging clients. What they do and how they charge fees … that was an eye-opener to me.”
At First Allied, McGinness was chief executive of First Allied Advisory Services, an RIA with more than $3 billion in assets under management based in St. Louis. See: Adam Antoniades names Matt McGinness as his replacement as CEO of First Allied’s $4-billion RIA-TAMP to launch new business line.
Most Envestnet advisors are IBD reps but Envestnet also serves more than 100 $1-billion-plus-AUM RIAs through its Envestnet | Tamarac subsidiary, which provides portfolio management systems and rebalancing software. See: Can the new Envestnet-Tamarac Godzilla take on the Advent-Black Diamond King Kong?.
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