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Bob Veres adds his bottom line to valuation debate started by Mark Hurley

If you build it, what will they buy it for?

Author Bob Veres, Guest columnist March 15, 2011 at 12:30 PM
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Bob Veres: Hurley overlooks a key ingredient: growth.

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Roger Hewins

March 15, 2011 — 3:31 PM

Bob is making a lot of sense. As we go forward I suspect the much maligned revenue multiple will become respectable again, as we all recognize how volatile EBITDA can be and will probably be.

Two key issues:

1. the internal transfer is a great way to go, and has been overlooked in most of the analyses until recently. It was assumed to be impossible because the price would be too high, but like law firms and CPA firms we can execute gradual transitions over extended periods of time.

2. pricing – a one time sale to the big bank is not really a good comp for internal transfer pricing, when you are selling to the people who are making the business successful. A more conservative price makes this a viable strategy, and you can infer that some part of the “discount” is indirect comp for the people who become your Principals. It is not a gift or a mistake, it is an excellent plan for succession and success.

I will go out on a limb and put some numbers out there. I am interested in what other people are seeing and thinking. Revenue – 1 is too low, 2+ is too high. Perhaps 1.6? EBITDA multiples – 5 too low for a good firm, 10-12 too high for internal transfer. 7.5?



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